My First Orble Pet Peeve :: Multiple Comments
December 6th 2006 23:56
I should start off by saying that I believe this post may very well offend a couple of Orblers, and if that is the case then I apologize. I in no way mean for this post to be directed at any one person here on Orble and it is in no way personal. This post is merely my opinion on a form of "gaming", or cheating the system that seems to be rampant around here.
Secondly, I'm not moaning to get my own stories ranked well because I can do that on my own, and without using sneaky methods to keep them in the top ten.
All I wish to do is assert that there are some comment practices being used to game the system and it's as obvious as it gets that it's going on.
Let's get right to it...
I normally don't get in a fuss over petty things like this, but my being offended over it has now held me back from commenting on several posts that I felt were well worth commenting on simply because of the quality of the post. And it continues to happen.
Basically, I refuse to comment on a post where the author seems to think no one else will be bothered by their multiple comment posting, when only one comment is needed.
What I mean by this, and I'm not going to post any examples, is that a few Orble bloggers will reply to five or more comments using one comment per reply. This means that instead of the author using one post to reply to the recent comments, the author is posting one comment in response to each comment listed.
What does this do? Well, in short, it cheats the system and keeps a top ten post spot locked up and sealed off until the time period runs out and the "gamed" post falls off naturally.
Why? Simple. If a comment that you post on your blog is worth two votes, then why not give yourself 20 votes every time you need to reply on your blog right? I mean... who wants two votes when you could have 10 times that without anyone else's help?
In fact, I think Orble is the only place where I've seen this allowed. Multiple posting on forums like DigitalPoint and others will warn you for it and then ban you if it continues. Overall it's considered to be a very selfish practice and most online communities look down on this sort of thing.
Why does it bother ME so much? Because it means the system is not working on a level playing field. A post does not get to the top ten list because the readers want it to. No, the post is getting there because the AUTHOR wants it to. That in itself flies in the face of the community based structure that is taking the web by storm.
Now I'm not suggesting that those of you who do this are doing it just to beat everyone else off the top ten list, but it does raise questions as to how much concern you have for other posts that possibly deserve to be in that spot. It's also quite possible that some of you don't even realize what you're doing, but that doesn't change the fact.
Finally, it's logical to assume that this "back door" in the ranking system will eventually be exploited by money hungry web gurus who couldn't care less about you, me, and the credibility of Orble.
In my opinion, Orblers should begin looking down on this practice. I know, I know... it's an easier way to respond to all those different comments. But the fact remains that when you do this it games the system into thinking the post is better simply because it has more comments.
We've got some really good bloggers around here, some are even tech friends of mine here on Orble, and they can't seem to break the ice and get a post out there for all to see. I think we should be giving everyone a fair shake.
Gaming the system, whether you mean to or not, simply isn't cool.
-Eric
EDIT: Please know that I'm looking at this from a technical standpoint. I hope you'll understand that people see things from different viewpoints. With this post, I'm just saying that I notice something that I'm sure future Orblers will notice as well.
Also, as Jon points out below, this isn't necessarily about multiple posts being a bad thing, because they aren't. In fact, you should be able to comment all you want. But if this is going to be allowed then perhaps the voting system could be tweaked so it doesn't change the outcome of the post rank.
This is simply my opinion. Nothing more.
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Comment by Eric
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j/k
Comment by jon
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Do you think that would fix the problem? It would be quite an easy change to make.
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"I love this post"
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"Thank you - I love you too!"
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"But I love you more!"
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"You're just the best!"
Blah Blah no substance repeat comments bore me to tears.
You've got my vote Eric!
Comment by Eric
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That would certainly fix the problem. I still like the "karma gives you better voting power" set up. That part is fine because you can only vote once. But the comments are just being spammed like crazy right now and something should really be changed IMHO. I understand the logic behind it... it gives people motivation to interact, but at the expense of what?
LAD,
lol on the comment example! That isn't exactly what I was talking about but yeah that can get annoying as well.
Eric
Comment by Jimbo
Comment by katyzzz
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I reply to individual comments on an individual basis. I think that's good manners, not just lump them into one reply.
I did not design Orble's system.
Why should Jon respond only to what you have to say?
Different people are here for a variety of reasons, if some like to conduct their blog like an individual talk show then I think that is up to them.
You'll not find much of that on my blog.
I assist others whenever I can, and give a lot of encouragement to new bloggers.
Quite frankly I value my time and I do this more or less on a goodwill basis.
Snce when have you become the voice of Orble, and may I dare to tell you, you do not always get it right, sometimes your logic is quite incorrect.
katyzzz...I am not responding to this thinking you were referring in any way to me. I responded because I did not like the presumption that your opinion is worth more than others or is representative.
I don't subscribe to the talk show approach, but like to have a little fun, from time to time, I take it that fun is not high on your agenda.
katyzzz
Comment by Eric
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With all due respect, I think you've completely missed the point.
I reply to individual comments on an individual basis. I think that's good manners, not just lump them into one reply.
As I mentioned above, it's not WHY you do it that causes the syetem to falsy promote stories; Rather, it's that fact that you're doing it period. I know some Orblers have good intentions, but again, that doesn't change the fact.
I did not design Orble's system.
Nor did I. Why is that relevant?
Why should Jon respond only to what you have to say?
I'm sorry, but could you be a little more specific? I honestly have no idea where you're going with this.
Different people are here for a variety of reasons, if some like to conduct their blog like an individual talk show then I think that is up to them.
Of course! But changes need to be made so that those blogs are on the same playing fields as all others.
You'll not find much of that on my blog.
Ironically, I have your blog in mind because I've seen it happen there. Especially after you made me feel guilty for not spending as much time commenting on your blog as you did mine. I was quite offended over that truth be told.
I assist others whenever I can, and give a lot of encouragement to new bloggers.
I don't see anyone disputing that.
Quite frankly I value my time and I do this more or less on a goodwill basis.
I'm not exactly rolling in cash here.
Snce when have you become the voice of Orble, and may I dare to tell you, you do not always get it right, sometimes your logic is quite incorrect.
It's my opinion and it may not always be right according to you. And what do you mean by "voice of Orble?"
Am I suddenly not allowed to voice my concerns?
I am not responding to this thinking you were referring in any way to me. I responded because I did not like the presumption that your opinion is worth more than others or is representative.
Please explain exactly how you got that feeling if you don't mind. Because I don't AT ALL think my opinion is superior to anyone else. I simply feel confident about what I writet. Should I not?
I don't subscribe to the talk show approach, but like to have a little fun, from time to time, I take it that fun is not high on your agenda.
Don't be silly. Fun is perfectly OK, but since when should fun determine what stories beat others?
Do tell.
Comment by jon
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It's up to the Orble system to cope with what people are doing, not the other way around.
Comment by The Voices in my Head
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I am one of those Orblers who has caused you such offense. My apologies, by all means.
I respond individually, and will continue to do so regardless of any changes, because I find it disrespectful for someone who has taken time to comment on my post to be lumped in with other comments. I do not like it when it is done on other blogs with my comments. (However, something so trivial does not prevent me from visiting and commenting again.) Comments will always get an individual response on my blogs only for that reason, and not to make the popular list.
The top ten, most popular, is not about the quality of the post and you are kidding yourself if you believe that's what gets a post on the popular list, regardless of the system in place.
Some posts are controversial, some are sexual, and some just know how to draw people in. Some bloggers just have a high fan base. It also has to do with the number of people signed on that share a particular interest at a particular time.
As for you and your tech friends not making the top ten, your blogs are geared towards other people of similiar interest, just as mine are and everyone else's on this site. If you aren't making the top ten, or your friends aren't, have you considered that there may not be many people as of right now that are drawn to tech based blogs at Orble? I am NOT in any way saying that as a slam, at all. I am just curious if you have considered that possibility.
I will admit, it does irk me that there have been so many posts lately on not making the top ten list, leaving comments, not leaving comments, it's rediculous. The beauty of the internet is the utter lack of rules. I, for one, would like to keep it that way.
(LONG comment, went on a bit of a rant, again my apologies. I suppose at some point there will be a post complaining about that.)
Live, Let Live and Let Love Rule,
Voices~
Comment by Eric
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I think this line sums it up. I probably wrote this post from a perspective that is a little condescending and I didn't mean it that way. I have nothing against multiple comments as long as the system doesn't honor them and give them credit in the form of votes.
Like on a forums people do it to pad their posts counts.
BUT, you'll have a hard time convincing me that there isn't a single blogger here at Orble who doesn't do it for the extra votes.
BTW, the comment above this one is a VERY good comment and has me thinking. Thanks for that, I needed it.
Comment by The Voices in my Head
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Comment by Eric
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LOL! Honestly, I had no doubts on that. In fact, I'm confident I could make the top ten list every day if I actually took the time to make it happen, but that isn't the point here is it?
I just wish the ALGO was simplified because I see loopholes and exploits and that can take the fun away for certain people such as myself.
Comment by KylieW
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I agree that we need to change the way the voting/popularity of blogs is judged.
I like the idea of either only the first comment from each person adding to the vote total, or Jimbo's idea of the first comment being equal to your karma and any subsequent ones being equal to only '1'.
I would think that very very few people are deliberately using the comments to inflate their popularity.....that's just a byproduct of the system that we have. Most people just genuinely want to respond to the comments left on their post.....which is great, cos I like to get responses to the comments I leave, and I think it makes the whole blog thing more interactive.
I sometimes try to lump my comments together to respond to a few people at a time (if a number of people have commented at the same time) because I realise that multiple comments do inflate my vote count and I feel a bit bad about that. However, if only one person replies at a time then I'll respond individually (as you've done), because it's what I would want if I'd left a comment.
It looks like Jon is on the case though and soon we won't have to worry that multiple comments are unduly affecting the popularity of a post.
You raised a good point......and one that I think will create some change. Excellent work!
KylieW
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Comment by Eric
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Thank you for looking at this from "outside the box". I think your comment is spot on and you did a much better job of getting the point across than I did.
Thanks for stopping by.
Eric
Comment by Nina
It wouldn't worry be if the vote system was changed to make only the first comment count.
Comment by Eric
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And a lot of people do it for those reasons. That's perfectly OK. Unfortunately not everyone has that halo over their head, but life goes on.
I think, from what I'm reading, that the majority of Orblers would be perfectly OK with these tweaks being made. Am I wrong?
If so, please tell me why.
Comment by Cibbuano
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I've had a few posts go into the popular posts page simply because me and another high-karma blogger had a chat conversation on my comments. You're right, Eric, that's not really a fair shake.
Comment by Eric
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I've only been here for three weeks and that has already happened. No, it isn't right when you really think about it.
"Actually, I'd suggest that the owner of the site doesn't contribute any ratings to the post, beyond the initial submission."
Personally, I'd be perfectly OK with that as well. But I have no idea what all goes into the ALGO so there may be better alternatives. It'll be interesting to see what Jon is thinking.
Comment by Justin
I'll admit I respond to almost everybody that replies to my site but I'll keep each response to one single reply, which I think is OK. If you bulked in a reply to a number of posters on the one reply, they may miss your personal reply to them amongst all others and think you haven't bothered replying when actually they've just missed it. Replying to each point someone has with a new post is just incredulous though.
I think the method I use is OK though. Any method is OK really as long as it's appropriate and files people over votes each time.
Comment by KylieW
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Looks like most folks are with you Eric.
Comment by TonyK
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In reality the number of posts you do is more reflective of your commitment to the network and your respective site than random comments
Just my opinion.
Comment by Homer Joyce
I only have one problem with Orble. They advertise to pay bloggers whom they consider worthy of payment as writers.
If I thought Orble was any different to the film industry and literature industry, I would write to the powers that be at Orble to find out who these amazing writers were who were worthy of payment.
I'm not a cynic. I just want to get some tips from these amazing writers on how to improve my writing to make it worthy of $40/week for an amazing total of 8 weeks. I can live on that for the rest of my life.
In the meantime, I will continue to generate money for Orble and continue to amuse myself and titillate certain Orblers who cannot remain nameless becasue they have names. (I will just not divulge their names).
I thought I heard the word 'cynic! Did someone call me a cynic? How rude!
Why doesn't anyone consider me a cynical realist? I much prefer it.
Homer ...
Comment by TonyK
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Comment by Ahmed
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I agree with Eric here, it seems the idea of getting to the front page has taken up top priority with one too many orble bloggers desperate for a bit of extra traffic but unwilling to simply post more regularly to attract the *right* kind of traffic.
TonyK makes a good point, high ratings don't mean high traffic, heck, recently I have been making lots of traffic to my blog without ever really breaking the 200 point mark.
I'll read more of your comments and reply to them (maybe use the edit button too
Ok having read the comments I'd like to clear up some things, and give my opinion on others.
Eric is basing his opinion on the unwritten rules of the internet, particularly forums and the like, where double posting or cheating the system in anyway is frowned upon. The question is of intent here, do orble bloggers puprously spread out their comments over a number of posts? Yes, some of them do, on my own blog someone suggested to me I reply invdividually to each post since it will get me more votes (I have the link, but I prefer no one ask me to back this statement up becuase it would target individual bloggers), so there you go, there are those with less than scrupulous intent on multiple replies other than making their lives easy (aka, getting extra points)...
Jon stated the system should cope with bloggers, not the other way around, I kind of disagree, there has to be a middle ground, if it is the bloggers intent to cheat the sytem then he/she CAN in fact find ways to cheat it no matter what safety precaution is put, the general attitude of Orble needs to change.
Now, I know I'll hate myself for this, *but* when I started blogging I averaged 40 readesr a day, this was with daily posts mind you, sometimes more. As time went on I did start asking hard hitting questions with the blog to hit the popular posts page, usually this would push me to the 60's per day. At the end of the day though Idecided to bugger that and just write about stuff I want to, and not worry about extending the length of posts too long or anything like that. Naturally my traffic dropped to the 50's, right now though after this much blogging I can say that my traffic has shot way up not because of getting it to the popular page continuously but becuase of posting solidly over time (well sort of), that is how I have increased my traffic so much. It does fluctuate but it never ever goes less than 80 individual readers a day.
There you go, I just revealed my traffic stats, I hope you guys are happy
Comment by TonyK
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This is why I think more emphasis should be given on posts and traffic when it comes to karma over comments
Comment by Ahmed
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But not for the popular posts page since then what would happen is that the top 10 orble blogs (which don't really change too often) will always be on
oh, and just for the record, yes, I am disapointed, bitter, gruff, upset about the fact my satirical trojan wars and game consoles post didn't get much attention if any at all, I put quite a bit of effort into that and it only got ONE Digg! WTH is up with that!? I put in an effort, I did my research, but I just didn't market it right I guess... not to sound self reightous but that was front page material... STUPID PR skills I guess...
I don't mind at all that it didn't go to the front page ora nything like that, I don't mind the fact I only got 120 hits on the day I posted that despite the fact it was on Digg (which would/should push it up to something FAR FAR higher), I just sucked it up and moved on.
So yeah, I guess I am more or less upset at the fact my 'quality' posts don't make the frong page both on orble or digg...
But I had fun setting up the story premise, researching my greek history and going crazy with photoshop. Also there were a few people who read it and commented on it, clearly having enjoyed my little satirical story, and that was the point of it all to get some truly positive responses rather than just posts for the heck of it. I know this isn't all that relavant to multiple reply's to posts *but* having said that it is generally the same issue, to gain popularity votes and make it to the front pagae on orble for the wrong reasons.
Anyway, how does the 'popular blogs' on orble get judged?
Comment by Luke
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Do you think that would fix the problem? It would be quite an easy change to make."
I'm for this.
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hahahahaha!
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Comment by Lilla
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When I first started to venture into commenting I soon found that if I tried to answer all the comments at once, I'd forget what each has said. Now unless I copy and paste each response into a word document to read, it is hard to respond directly to that comment from another page where I cannot see what that person said...*l-ing ol* .. at my age and level of familial interuptedness trying to juggle three or five responses by memory is ... unattainable!
…to me its about respect and an exchange of energy too ... that's what money is always about, sure... but I respect the people that have taken the time to make a comment to bolster my 'direction'... offering insights I haven't noticed, or controversial opposing opinions that challenge me to stretch my tolerance and ‘live and let live’ principals...all good fun and as long as it is not too banal, dogmatic or fanatical, I will always welcome comments which make me laugh, lift me up and add to the fabric of my days...
btw... I love the picture!
Lilla...
Ps ...this is the first time I have left a comment on your post... although I have enjoyed your comments on other posts….
...I hope mine lifts your day in some small way...
Comment by MelissaA
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Speaking as someone who has only recently has had to deal with many multiple replies ( I mean how often can you comment on my stuff anyway?), I didn't know how to do it at all, so I could only go by what others had done.
I checked out other blogs and found that yes, a lot of blogs do reply individually a lot, while others type all their replies into one post.
It also took me a while to twig that the voting number was going up like that with the posts. ( I can be a bit slow sometimes ; ) ).
So I then decided to split the difference depending on the length of the reply.
If I have a long reply, I make it an individual post, if I have short replies, I will put them all into one.
This way, the post 'boxes' are all similar in size....sounds a bit weird to you all I'm sure, but let's just say it's the Libran in me who likes things well-balanced. ; )
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I'll settle for a pepsi max *nods*
Comment by Eric
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I do see a lot of tension going on around Orble, but I think it's just growing pains to be quite honest. Orble is quickly becoming a very big network and these kinds of things need to be hashed out before it gets two or three times bigger.
In my opinion anyway.
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I agree, Lilla. The problem is that when you go to page where you can create a proper comment, it enters into formatting mode which - with no offense to Jon or Jay - is pretty bad. It has no resemblance whatsoever to the end product, and this has bearance not only on comments but also on post creation. This needs to be overhauled so that its tailored to the format of each blog, and so that in comment creation, you can see the other comments.
Comment by Lilla
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...it's really nice to know that someone agrees...
Lilla...
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I feel like I spend half my life deleting notifications at the moment...
Comment by Jessicca
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One said point is, Jon, that the Orble main site always shows the latest posts with 10 votes and above. Those who really worked hard to post, usually starts with 8 votes or even less. This has created a little unfairness to new writers as when people first visited the main site, the first thing they see is the latest more popular posts, rather than just the latest new post. I had to click on "show all new posts" to see anything else interesting. I think Orble should think about this issue as well, so that everyone has an equal chance to check out. "Why show 10 votes and above first when you already have the top 20 on your left side?" that would be my thought of the day every time I visit the main site.
Another thing is, Eric my friend, if your friends have been working part to post but unable to get into the top 10 (or top 20 in the main orble site) your friends might be lacking supportive fans out there. I think the voting tracks how the responses are in every post, how supportive people are. But I do not really agree for those who have those "1 line comment" counted as a vote. Because they are just chats, not true comments and discussions. That, would be Orble's (2) lookout, perhaps?
Another thing is, I agree with katyzzz, Lilla and Jimbo. These days I also reply each comment from anyone who has commented my site with full respect. Even my friends (who aren't Orblers) came in to post their comments. At least they know every of their comment is appreciated. Jimbo's been doing good with the DailyHistory, replying my friend's comments.
Bottom line is, I remembered that Orble's encouragement is the support of each Orbler for each other. Keep the site active and keep the visiting rates up, so that we get higher traffic and Adsense would be happier with us (to pay us more perhaps). I sometimes link my dear Orbler's posts from my site and introduced mine to them in comments as well. This is to encourage other people to come visit your site as well. It is all about marketing, my friend, marketing... and perhaps your friends can be more active in other posts that they find it interesting and at the same time promoting yours as well?
Isn't this all the same with the real world's marketing?
Ok... I think I have commented a really long winded one... I hope that everyone will forgive me to do so.
Happy Friday and have a great weekend! December is a time of cheer and lets be happy (like katyzzz emphasises) and have a bigger heart to obtain what Orble's trying to do for us. ^_^
Cheerio
Jessicca
Comment by Anonymous
And, as a guy who has worked online for many years now, I can assure you that eventually someone is going to exploit it. It's not a matter of if, no, it's a matter of when.
Bet on it.
And as I've mentioned earlier, I think most Orblers who comment like that are doing it for the RIGHT reasons. But, I cannot be convinced that everyone has that same intention.
Proof of this has even been supplied in a comment a few blocks up.
See for yourself.
Comment by Jessicca
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Yes, I've read all the comments above, including your non-against multiple acts, before I posted the previous one.
That's why I did mention on a more encouraging manner for your friends who didn't make it at the top ten post, like me, only occational when I get the right title on... to advertise their blog posts. Not everyone really browse every single category to get the interesting blog they'd like to read. Orble is so big, like a really big bookstore....
If you truly feel offended... in a way (probably I'm just sensitive)... my apologies. I DID mention that probably Jon would look into how the votes is awarded, like those simple sentences that doesn't worth the points should be reconsidered.
And yes, I know one day any Orbler will exploit that. Probably already started... you never know that the smarter ones (that didn't realise it before) might be using this method now since you have pointed out.
But we shall continue to have faith on fellow Orblers that they are kind people who works hard for their masterpiece articles than posting 1 post and hopping a lot of comments in return.
Everyone is working hard to make sure their work is noticed. This is one thing I see the energy here. Just that some, like in most cases, will misuse the energy.
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I've just posted this topic at the Writers forum.
Email notifications control
Perhaps you want to check that out and further point out whatever I have missed about the over populated notifications?
Cheerio
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Comment by Sword Serenity
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If you're replying to 10 different people, I don't really see any difference from writing:
Eric: [reply]
Jon: [reply]
Little Angry Doll: [reply]
Jimbo: [reply]
katyzz: [reply]
and so forth in one post. It's still an individual reply.
The only thing readability-wise that 10 separate posts will do is to give it a much larger spacer if the reply is short.
Comment by Jessicca
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No?
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Comment by Sword Serenity
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That's the part I don't quite understand about the gripe going on in this post. Perhaps it's different in a blogging community, but I've become accustomed to reading instances where a person replies to 20 people in a single post on a forum.
In almost all those cases, the person identifies who they're referring to before writing a paragraph or more in response to them so you can easiliy navigate the post. I can't speak for other people, but if it's a long set of replies, I may just respond to their response to something I said. Sometimes I'll read the replies to other people if it's a discussion I'm interested in, but as long as the person doesn't randomly reply to everyone in the same post without identifying who they're responding to, then I'm not really bothered by it.
The reason I'm so curious about the notion of a single comment post replying to multiple comments as being "poor manners" is because I've never come across that opinion as yet on forums (and this is the first blogging community I've joined). Rather, I see the opposite occur much more, where double (or more) posting is considered very rude and a warnable/bannable offense.
Comment by Jessicca
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Whereas if you are replying individual comments with just a simple "thanks" a few times to different people then it is not too good, like you said, it is an offence to many forums and it can be treated as a spam.
Nevertheless, there is a certain difference between BLOGs and FORUMS, if I judge your wordings correctly you have visited many forums previously....
Comment by Sword Serenity
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In the cases you mentioned above, I wonder whether Orble would benefit from a commenting mechanism similar to LiveJournal's, where there are multiple threaded replies per post. In those cases the author can respond to every individual comment, but not cause a massive multiple-post line. It's also rather easy to keep track of separate strands of discussion off the original post too.
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Comment by Justin
That way it's only a stylistic issue that people have with replying to others, either with a single reply or individual reply to each different poster.
Then everyone will be happy in a liberal Orble society.
Well, until the next pet peeve anyway.
Comment by Paula Neal Mooney
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And responding to readers who've been kind enough to read your post and leave a comment is a good practice.
Also, it is not frowned upon in the techie community but quite encouraged!
1 - It gives your readers good feedback and lets them know you care.
2 - It refreshes your page and keeps static pages up to date.
3 - Yes, it can add to your blog's "stickiness" and help your SEO.
Sounds like a win win win situation to me.
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Comment by Ye-Ha
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I have been on Orble just a couple of weeks and it took me no time to notice how popularity is being artificially created with comments.
In fact I even called them on on one post and even called out katyzzz. What a surprise that katyzzz took offense to your post.
Here's the post that I saw: Really Long Link
Orble - this needs to be fixed! Just the fact that members are arguing with each other should be reason enough.
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I think you should ONLY get karma when you post the FIRST comment on SOMEONE ELSE'S blog. After the first comment it's a conversation anyway. You SHOULD NOT get karma points for commenting on your own blog. That's like saying you earned such and such money at your bookstore when in fact you were buying all the books!
Let's change it! I'm sure all the people not doing it or unknowingly doing it will be all for the change.
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Blogging American
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